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		<title>Comment on On Becoming Lost by @ITSecurity</title>
		<link>http://blueshellsec.com/archives/287/comment-page-1#comment-608</link>
		<dc:creator>@ITSecurity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 17:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I applaud you for returning for school and look forward to reading the chronicle of your endeavors. I too was greatly discouraged by the quality of classes available to me at the time (my first instructor started the class by holding up a 3.5&quot; floppy and stating, “this is a disk”).  I would likely have followed a similar path had not parental and societal pressures kept me from leaving in disgust.  

Working and going to school is not an easy balancing act but it can be done. I worked full time through my degree programs and was even tempted to drop out when, following an internship, I was offered an IT position (I accepted the position and completed my last year on-line).  Fortunately you have the distinct advantage of entering into an InfoSec related degree program.  Hopefully this will keep you interested and engaged.  

I with you the best of luck. 

-Steven (@ITSecurity)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I applaud you for returning for school and look forward to reading the chronicle of your endeavors. I too was greatly discouraged by the quality of classes available to me at the time (my first instructor started the class by holding up a 3.5&#8243; floppy and stating, “this is a disk”).  I would likely have followed a similar path had not parental and societal pressures kept me from leaving in disgust.  </p>
<p>Working and going to school is not an easy balancing act but it can be done. I worked full time through my degree programs and was even tempted to drop out when, following an internship, I was offered an IT position (I accepted the position and completed my last year on-line).  Fortunately you have the distinct advantage of entering into an InfoSec related degree program.  Hopefully this will keep you interested and engaged.  </p>
<p>I with you the best of luck. </p>
<p>-Steven (@ITSecurity)</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Ego of Ellsberg by beastm0de</title>
		<link>http://blueshellsec.com/archives/275/comment-page-1#comment-607</link>
		<dc:creator>beastm0de</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Mar 2012 20:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great use of the word &#039;twat&#039; !   Lesson: Well read frat boys make shitty authors.
 Hope you are thriving in your new employment endeavor.  Peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great use of the word &#8216;twat&#8217; !   Lesson: Well read frat boys make shitty authors.<br />
 Hope you are thriving in your new employment endeavor.  Peace.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Do Not Meddle In The Affairs Of Hackers&#8230; by Real IA</title>
		<link>http://blueshellsec.com/archives/162/comment-page-1#comment-598</link>
		<dc:creator>Real IA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2011 17:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have seen Mr. Evans speak one time.  Luckly it was free for me. The info he was pushing was how to secure a laptop wih things like a &quot;WIFI killswitch&quot;.  He said that if a &quot;hack&quot; is notice by the said laptop that it would automaticlly turn off the WIFI and you could continue to surf in safety.  LOL  WOW.  I hope people to  some fact checking before they hire this guy.  

As for jane smith above, that is Evans hiding behind his keyboard again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have seen Mr. Evans speak one time.  Luckly it was free for me. The info he was pushing was how to secure a laptop wih things like a &#8220;WIFI killswitch&#8221;.  He said that if a &#8220;hack&#8221; is notice by the said laptop that it would automaticlly turn off the WIFI and you could continue to surf in safety.  LOL  WOW.  I hope people to  some fact checking before they hire this guy.  </p>
<p>As for jane smith above, that is Evans hiding behind his keyboard again.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Do Not Meddle In The Affairs Of Hackers&#8230; by jane smith</title>
		<link>http://blueshellsec.com/archives/162/comment-page-1#comment-592</link>
		<dc:creator>jane smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2011 17:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I enjoy seeing Mr. Evans whenever he speaks.  He gives useful information in a way that I can understand.  I hope he does many more interviews.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoy seeing Mr. Evans whenever he speaks.  He gives useful information in a way that I can understand.  I hope he does many more interviews.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Return to your Root by blahblahblah</title>
		<link>http://blueshellsec.com/archives/215/comment-page-1#comment-581</link>
		<dc:creator>blahblahblah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2011 04:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As so eloquently phrased previously:

The dictionary.com definition:

   hack·er1   Pronunciation Key  (h k r)
   n. Informal
    1. One who is proficient at using or programming a computer; a
       computer buff.
    2. One who uses programming skills to gain illegal access to a
       computer network or file.
    3. One who enthusiastically pursues a game or sport: a weekend tennis
       hacker.

Historically, the definitions of words in a language changes over time.  I&#039;m
sure there is someone out there who is educated and can provide me with the
term for this phenomenon; and whoever you are, you can go fuck yourself.  I&#039;m
not bragging to be a scholar, because that is something that I&#039;m not.  However,
I am a hacker, and because of this I can make the following statements.

1) A hacker is someone who hacks.
2) Hacking is comprimising computers/computer networks.

A hacker is not someone who writes socalled &quot;useful code&quot; (operating systems,
applications, etc).  Hackers write tools to aide with the comprimise of computer
networks.  And hackers _use_ those tools; they do not sell them to the highest
bidder, and they do not use them to make a name for theirself so that they can
then become a &quot;security consultant&quot;.

Silly rhetoric aside -- the important point is this: Hackers hack.

If you do not hack, you are not a hacker.  That simple.

On a semi-related note. . .

Anyone who claims to be an &quot;ethical hacker&quot; is a moron.  Hacking has nothing to
do with ethics.  There is no &quot;ethical hacking&quot; or &quot;unethical hacking&quot;; there is
only hacking.  If you have to dance around the definition of what a hacker is, 
or you have to dance around the definition of what hacking is, then what you do
is not hacking, and you are not a hacker.

-a PHC member</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As so eloquently phrased previously:</p>
<p>The dictionary.com definition:</p>
<p>   hack·er1   Pronunciation Key  (h k r)<br />
   n. Informal<br />
    1. One who is proficient at using or programming a computer; a<br />
       computer buff.<br />
    2. One who uses programming skills to gain illegal access to a<br />
       computer network or file.<br />
    3. One who enthusiastically pursues a game or sport: a weekend tennis<br />
       hacker.</p>
<p>Historically, the definitions of words in a language changes over time.  I&#8217;m<br />
sure there is someone out there who is educated and can provide me with the<br />
term for this phenomenon; and whoever you are, you can go fuck yourself.  I&#8217;m<br />
not bragging to be a scholar, because that is something that I&#8217;m not.  However,<br />
I am a hacker, and because of this I can make the following statements.</p>
<p>1) A hacker is someone who hacks.<br />
2) Hacking is comprimising computers/computer networks.</p>
<p>A hacker is not someone who writes socalled &#8220;useful code&#8221; (operating systems,<br />
applications, etc).  Hackers write tools to aide with the comprimise of computer<br />
networks.  And hackers _use_ those tools; they do not sell them to the highest<br />
bidder, and they do not use them to make a name for theirself so that they can<br />
then become a &#8220;security consultant&#8221;.</p>
<p>Silly rhetoric aside &#8212; the important point is this: Hackers hack.</p>
<p>If you do not hack, you are not a hacker.  That simple.</p>
<p>On a semi-related note. . .</p>
<p>Anyone who claims to be an &#8220;ethical hacker&#8221; is a moron.  Hacking has nothing to<br />
do with ethics.  There is no &#8220;ethical hacking&#8221; or &#8220;unethical hacking&#8221;; there is<br />
only hacking.  If you have to dance around the definition of what a hacker is,<br />
or you have to dance around the definition of what hacking is, then what you do<br />
is not hacking, and you are not a hacker.</p>
<p>-a PHC member</p>
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		<title>Comment on Open Letter to Event Organizers by Kris</title>
		<link>http://blueshellsec.com/archives/143/comment-page-1#comment-551</link>
		<dc:creator>Kris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Feb 2011 15:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The letter is yours to do with as you wish :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The letter is yours to do with as you wish <img src='http://blueshellsec.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Open Letter to Event Organizers by c0verfire</title>
		<link>http://blueshellsec.com/archives/143/comment-page-1#comment-550</link>
		<dc:creator>c0verfire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Feb 2011 05:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of plagerism I wanted to ask you if I could retool this open letter to send to some other organizations who may be unwittingly providing press to Greg...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of plagerism I wanted to ask you if I could retool this open letter to send to some other organizations who may be unwittingly providing press to Greg&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Return to your Root by _rob_d</title>
		<link>http://blueshellsec.com/archives/215/comment-page-1#comment-541</link>
		<dc:creator>_rob_d</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Feb 2011 17:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;I have felt the same frustration frequently, most recently as I have been focused on DoS attacks lately and I am told “DoS isn’t hacking”.
I think that it is profoundly dumb when DoSers are prosecuted on par with people who break into systems. Arguably, they disrupt the function of the system, but they leave it untouched and -mostly- unharmed. On any other point of view than legal, I totally agree, DoS is hacking.

You&#039;re right when you outline the sociological angle : we&#039;re a community with great diversity, from business people to &quot;hippies&quot;, ex-mil to gifted teenagers, you get the drift. It&#039;s pretty hard to think of us as sharing an identity. As I said before, that&#039;s a blog post on its own that has been cooking for a long time.

&gt;But for some reason I failed to approach social structures as logical puzzles in my youth.
I think the reason is youth. 

&gt;I’d love to see a hacker culture in which belittling someone is seen as poor skillz
hacker culture is supposed to have humanism at its roots. [insert here rant about young people not respecting anything anymore these days]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;I have felt the same frustration frequently, most recently as I have been focused on DoS attacks lately and I am told “DoS isn’t hacking”.<br />
I think that it is profoundly dumb when DoSers are prosecuted on par with people who break into systems. Arguably, they disrupt the function of the system, but they leave it untouched and -mostly- unharmed. On any other point of view than legal, I totally agree, DoS is hacking.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right when you outline the sociological angle : we&#8217;re a community with great diversity, from business people to &#8220;hippies&#8221;, ex-mil to gifted teenagers, you get the drift. It&#8217;s pretty hard to think of us as sharing an identity. As I said before, that&#8217;s a blog post on its own that has been cooking for a long time.</p>
<p>&gt;But for some reason I failed to approach social structures as logical puzzles in my youth.<br />
I think the reason is youth. </p>
<p>&gt;I’d love to see a hacker culture in which belittling someone is seen as poor skillz<br />
hacker culture is supposed to have humanism at its roots. [insert here rant about young people not respecting anything anymore these days]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Return to your Root by Sam Bowne</title>
		<link>http://blueshellsec.com/archives/215/comment-page-1#comment-540</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Bowne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Feb 2011 17:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have felt the same frustration frequently, most recently as I have been focused on DoS attacks lately and I am told &quot;DoS isn&#039;t hacking&quot;.

But I think this social phenomenon is easy to understand: hackers often are social outcasts, and lack social skills.  So when they finally become part of a community, and gain respect and status, they are most likely to imitate the people who cast them out earlier.  It&#039;s wrong and self-destructive, but understandable.  

I am intrigued by the idea of &quot;social engineering&quot; as a way to fix this problem.  If a brilliant techie is unhappy at school or work, why not hack the social structure?  Getting respect and status is not harder than getting root.  But for some reason I failed to approach social structures as logical puzzles in my youth.

My sister teaches social skills to medical students at Alverno college, and they have an excellent formula that intrigues me.  Students practice skills like listening, following a leader, taking leadership, giving and accepting criticism, and are scored on these skills, and improve them.  I&#039;d love to see a hacker culture in which belittling someone is seen as poor skillz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have felt the same frustration frequently, most recently as I have been focused on DoS attacks lately and I am told &#8220;DoS isn&#8217;t hacking&#8221;.</p>
<p>But I think this social phenomenon is easy to understand: hackers often are social outcasts, and lack social skills.  So when they finally become part of a community, and gain respect and status, they are most likely to imitate the people who cast them out earlier.  It&#8217;s wrong and self-destructive, but understandable.  </p>
<p>I am intrigued by the idea of &#8220;social engineering&#8221; as a way to fix this problem.  If a brilliant techie is unhappy at school or work, why not hack the social structure?  Getting respect and status is not harder than getting root.  But for some reason I failed to approach social structures as logical puzzles in my youth.</p>
<p>My sister teaches social skills to medical students at Alverno college, and they have an excellent formula that intrigues me.  Students practice skills like listening, following a leader, taking leadership, giving and accepting criticism, and are scored on these skills, and improve them.  I&#8217;d love to see a hacker culture in which belittling someone is seen as poor skillz</p>
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		<title>Comment on Return to your Root by djwiteboi</title>
		<link>http://blueshellsec.com/archives/215/comment-page-1#comment-538</link>
		<dc:creator>djwiteboi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Feb 2011 15:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want bluetooth sunglasses!  that sounds super 1337!</description>
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